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Northwestern Pacific RailRoad "Redwood Empire Special" - Trains in America

Not mine, but something I found on Youtube. Scenes of a large "Redwood Empire Special" operating on the Northwestern Pacific RailRoad. A sign on the side of the train proclaims "100 CARS...

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Comment by Cory W Swank on February 2, 2011 at 6:52pm
Yeah the NPC had that funky homemade cab forward, maybe that is where the confusion comes from?
Comment by Lawrence LaBranche on February 2, 2011 at 5:50pm
While it can be said those types of cab forwards never set foot on the NWP, a cab forward was on the North Coast if I remember right. Remember cab forward just means the cab is forward of the boiler.
Comment by powerpawsnw on February 2, 2011 at 5:32pm
Joel -- read again what I wrote. I nevcer implied that any SP cab forward even tried to enter the NWP. I said that the Cal Western contributed 50 cars to the train that was handed over to the NWP for forwarding to the SP. I also said that the Cal Western's consist was all exposed lumber braced for long distance shipping on flatcars.

Take a breath...everybody reads stuff online too fast anymore and thus misunderstand intent and phrasing of what they "read."
Comment by powerpawsnw on January 31, 2011 at 1:54pm
This I knew about, but what's puzzling is the consist behind the SP 4144: when the 50 cars from Union Lumber Company were filmed (ceremonially) on the Ten Mile Railroad north of Fort Bragg -- the only spot the local photographer(s) could get a whole-consist sequence of still photos and movie footage -- the ULCo-generated loads were entirely on flatcars, all braced and placarded for direct relay to NWP and connecting roads. The SP consist appears to be all box cars. Were there two separate consists?

We should also be aware that there were non-NWP "Prosperity Special" lumber trains coming from the Northern California pine districts, e.g. Mc Cloud River Lumber Co and Shevlin's operation in southern Oregon. These also traversed the SP in big showy trains around the same time.
Comment by Mark Drury on October 14, 2010 at 9:58pm
Richard is correct. There was some heated discussion on the Espee Yahoo! group some time ago about whether any SP cab forwards ever moved across the NWP, and someone swore up and down that an AC-class locomotive was in Willits at some point, but he was rather humorously shouted down and the strong consensus was that no such locomotive ever appeared on NWP trackage. The above is great footage and well worth sharing. Regards,

Mark D.
Comment by Richard Todd on October 13, 2010 at 3:28pm
Outstanding! I believe the train is actually out of Roseville with a 100 car train of redwood lumber headed east. The clip includes a beautiful sequence of the train pulling uphill, with a second cab forward cut into the train. There was a link to a 9 minute film from 1914 showing the NWP under construction with amazing quality given the period. I have attempted to upload the link to the site.

Thank you P&SR KID!

Richard Todd

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