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California's Lumber Shortline Railroads (America Through Time)
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Author:  our own Jeff Moore.This is a great little book with wonderful photos and historical narratives about many of our smaller railroads, including the NWP. …Continue

Tags: jeff, moore, railroads, lumber, shortline

Started this discussion. Last reply by Alan Baer on Wednesday.

PTC Problems on UP
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form Wall Street Journal, 2018-01-26Union Pacific CEO: Train Braking Technology Is Clogging the RailwaySystem to curb collisions or derailments sometimes ‘makes a train stop where it’s not supposed…Continue

Tags: PTC, CSX

Started this discussion. Last reply by Richard C. Brand Feb 4.


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Culture Clash Over Mill Valley Depot

From ABC 7 News:, March 16, 2018 07:54PMMILL VALLEY, Calif. (KGO) --In Mill Valley, locals are worried about big plans to change a classic cafe that's also an important cultural space.It's owned by the city but run by a popular restaurateur, who says he has the community's best intentions at heart.If you know Mill Valley, then…See More
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Are Petaluma Grain Deliveries Affected by CN Service Problems?

From WSJ 2018-03-15: National Railway Struggles to Make On-Time DeliveriesPrevious cost-cutting has left railroad short of capacity to serve customers shipping grain, oil and moreCanadian National Railway ousted its chief executive amid struggles to make deliveries on…See More
Alan Baer replied to Dave S.'s discussion California's Lumber Shortline Railroads (America Through Time)
"Great Book,"
Dave S. commented on Mike Davis's photo

Humboldt County Fair

"Looks like Wingo!"
Feb 24
Dave S. commented on Mike Davis's photo

2009 in Petaluma

"I believe 2009 is heading towards us in this photo (northbound) and is about to cross East D Street in Petaluma.  The traffic signals show green, but the "No Right Turn" arrow is illuminated.  Notice the blue car.  Of…"
Feb 24
Dave S. commented on David L ILLICH's status
"It seems that the joint NWP/SMART operating agreement requires NWP to stage cars on the wye in Ignacio during the day and then switch Petaluma businesses in the dead of night when they are allowed onto the SMART route.  (Anyone know what…"
Feb 22
Dave S. replied to Richard C. Brand's discussion SMART awarded $10.5 M from Calif State
"Hi Richard: You didn't specify your news source, so I went looking and found the Patch article.  I see now that it came from a press release on the SMART…"
Feb 17
Dave S. replied to Richard C. Brand's discussion SMART awarded $10.5 M from Calif State
"Here's a link to the article: and here's the article text: The funding will allow Sonoma-Marin Area Rail Transit District to add more trips to…"
Feb 16
Dave S. commented on Ian B.'s blog post NWP #1922 today
"Mr. Muller: Here are some views of 1922 from member Mike Davis.  Not nighttime, but…"
Feb 14
Jeff Moore replied to Dave S.'s discussion California's Lumber Shortline Railroads (America Through Time)
"Hey!  That's my book (or one of them)! Thanks for the plug, I appreciate it a lot.  That was a fun project, and except for one or two very small stupid errors I'm pleased with how it turned out.  Thanks again! Jeff…"
Feb 12
Jennifer replied to Dave S.'s discussion California's Lumber Shortline Railroads (America Through Time)
"Looks good, we'll put it on the list of books to order.  Many thanks! :-)"
Feb 12
Ian B. replied to Dave S.'s discussion California's Lumber Shortline Railroads (America Through Time)
"I have it; absolutely fantastic! A very definitive history of the NWP and A&MR. 100% worth a buy."
Feb 12
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California's Lumber Shortline Railroads (America Through Time)

Author:  our own Jeff Moore.This is a great little book with wonderful photos and historical narratives about many of our smaller railroads, including the NWP. Available from Amazon: More
Feb 10
Richard C. Brand replied to Dave S.'s discussion PTC Problems on CSX
"Glad you brought that up Dave because for the Amtrak train, it would have been nice if the inverse of this statement happened on the Chessie RoW.  "makes a train stop where it’s not supposed to stop"."
Feb 4
Dave S. replied to Dave S.'s discussion PTC Problems on CSX
"Sorry, the heading should say "UP" as in Union Pacific, not CSX.  Mind was on CSX that day I guess, like with today's Amtrak accident."
Feb 4
Dave S. commented on Chad Glover's status
"Holy cow!   I saw the news on the congressional Amtrak accident, but not this.  My wife, who is traveling in Asia forwarded a CBS news clip on this.  Condolances, especially for the SMART train crew.  "
Jan 31

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New Book: The NWP, Lifeline of the Redwood Empire, Boom and Bust 1951-2001

I just received this fabulous new book and it is a must-have for all NWP fans.  Tons of crisp and clear photos, most I've never seen before.  Lots of interesting stories from railroad employees.  Lots of detailed information about the most-recent 50 years of operation!

I've got my reading to do and am looking forward to going through this great volume page by page.  I just wanted to share my enthusiasm for this new book so that others can enjoy it too.



Posted on August 7, 2017 at 8:23am — 3 Comments

Too Many Railcars, Too Little Freight (WSJ 2016-12-02)

Too Many Railcars, Too Little Freight

Rail equipment sits idle as commodities slump, changes in energy market cut into demand…


Posted on December 2, 2016 at 4:45pm — 1 Comment

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At 9:57am on February 9, 2017, Richard C. Brand said…

Hello Dave:

Karl is no longer an member so hope you will return once again to add to the group.


At 11:34am on December 23, 2016, Jennifer said…

Hi Dave,  Thanks, and happy holidays/ merry x-mas to you and yours!  :-)

At 11:24pm on November 7, 2016, Richard C. Brand said…

Dave I like your comments to issues on the site.  I'm normally not a "friender" as I've never seen you but thanks for the invite.

At 10:08pm on January 1, 2011, Mark Drury said…
Glad you're finding the site useful, Dave! And, yes, the "x" does delete a comment, and I noticed your comment was gone when I clicked the link in the email letting me know you had left one, but figured I would comment back just in case (I was pretty sure you had found the SPINS but felt a comment couldn't hurt). Regarding the SPINS, all I have are the JPEG files which were uploaded to the network, but I could pretty easily turn those into individual PDFs for easier viewing (grouping them into one PDF may be a little more work).

And the search feature has been on the network from day one, but it could definitely be a little easier to find, as you point out. Hope you had a great New Year and thanks for your contributions to our network! Regards,

Mark D.
At 4:51pm on December 31, 2010, Mark Drury said…
Hello Dave,

The NWP SPINS album may be found here:

It is not a complete set but is very interesting, all the same. Have a great New Year! Regards,

Mark D.
At 9:16pm on December 23, 2010, Bob Burns said…


      Well as anticipated the Wingo excursion got cancelled due to ....Flooding! So it will be rescheduled for the summer, possibly next spring if I get the time. Sonoma Creek is full and when the tide comes in it floods the upper end of Millerick Road. The gal where we were supposed to stay has friends that live in Wingo and she was going to make arriangments for us to go out there. Plus visit some of the Sonoma Land Company Camps, there were 8-10 I believe. Including the land on both sides of HWY 37 west of the Skaggs Island turnoff and Hwy 121, Skaggs Island itself were both Land Company Camps.  That was Tolay Creek that had the lift span at Sears Point in those photos I posted to the Forum. Hard to believe it was a navigable waterway at one time. Do you know anything about the Navy ship up the Napa River from Mare Island? Saw it once when flying from Sonoma into the Napa Airport. It was laying on it's side on the east bank of the river all rusted out, looked like it may have been a Destroyer Escort. Story I was told was it broke loose one night and floated upstream with the tide and grounded itself. Navy salvaged most of it then abandoned it. I don't know if the hulk is still there though.  Anyway I'll post on the forum when I might get back down there. If you email me direct you can use the email address i sent with the DVD.  Bob B.

At 9:09pm on December 16, 2010, Bob Burns said…


       The NWP at onetime did go past 1st Street West and crossed  Hwy 12 above where  the Maxwell Farm area. It then went north to the Boyes Hot Springs area then further north to Santa Rosa through Kenwood? I get a little hazy there. There also was a line that went up the west side of the Valley  through El Verano and Glen Ellen. I know about the NWP crossing HWY 12 as one of the family stories was about my grandfather Anton Neuman not seeing the train while driving one night across the tracks and getting hit. The result of which was he was thrown from the car and ended up in Maxwells barbed wire fence. They say he spent sometime in hospital. Also the rail line at Schellville has a branch that goes west and crossed HWY 12 there as well. Was this the branch that went up the west side of the Valley? It had been removed by the time my memory kicked in, but always remember that woop dee doo going over the old grade crossing as they never leveled it out. Quite the thrill on the way to visit cousin Anton and his blacksmith shop! Even more fun in the 60's when I finally got to drive!

Bob B.

At 8:02pm on December 15, 2010, Bob Burns said…


      Got the card, thanks! Didn't expect the money, you really didn't have to do that, but thanks! I mailed the DVD today so maybe by Sat it should be there? I also included a copy of a newspaper article done about  my cousin Anton, thought you might like to read it. The SV Historical Society got back to me with a positive on "they have quite a bit of info, re: the NWP and Schellville" They are located at the Depot Museum in Sonoma. I'm awaiting a followup email from them. I guess I didn't mention that back in 1959-early 60's the end of track for the NWP was just west of First Street West in Sonoma. They had a mechanic there that did minor maintenance, brake adjustments, etc, they also kept a tank car of fuel there for the locomotives. One day I rode my bike up there and asked him if I could "play on the engine", he said, "sure just don't move any levers or switches" I had free range on a set of old GPs. I was able to do that on several more occasions before we moved out to the counrty and it was too far to ride my bike into town.

         Ever got up to the Portola RR Museum? You can run a deisel Locomotive up there and it a "hands on place". You can climb through anything that isn't locked or in the shop. They do have a lot of stuff up there to play on! I think they reopen in Mar or APR. Google them for their website which gives you all the info.

In the note with the DVD I also included my hotmail email address if you'd like to get off the forum to exchange info. I use that email for contact and conducting business. 99.9 of any spam goes to the junk file there as opposed to my earthlink email which I ownly use sparingly. Maybe you do the same? It's good to have at least 2 email addresses to use, my thoughs anyway.

Hope you enjoy the DVD, thanks for the nice card and I hope you have a Merry Christmas!

Bob B.

At 9:21pm on December 13, 2010, Bob Burns said…


     Your copy is burned and waiting for you! I played it in my DVD player and it seems to play ok. The interviewer asked Anton how to open the bridge, the reply was something like, you move the lever one way or the other to get the pump going and pull the chain. I really have no idea though.

      Also do you have the VHS or DVD of "Rails to the Redwood Empire"? There is a short segment in it about an excursion train stopped at Schellville, possibly the sameone as in my still photos, I'd have to watch the DVD to see if it mentions dates though. There is a VERY brief moment that shows someone walking away from the camera, my older brother said it was Anton when he watched that video. As you watch this new DVD notice Anton's gate as he walks away from the camera, very distinctive, same gate as the guy in in the Redwood Empire Video.

He lived just to the left of where the train was stopped. First house, blacksmith shop on the east side of the tracks across from the Depot. He knew alot of the train crews and section hands. My first pocket knive a 3 blade Kabar had belonged to one of the engineers and Anton sold it to me of 2 cents, which being only 5 years old I had to "borrow" from his uncle, my grandfather. Still have the knife, it's right here in front of me!

     Anyway I'll get this DVD out to you ASAP after your address arrives.



Bob B. 

At 8:08pm on December 13, 2010, Bob Burns said…

I'll get another copy burned for you so it will be waiting when your card arrives.

According to the weather forcast you probably could have just walked out side and thrown it up in the air and it would have arrived tomorrow morning, "they say" we are supposed to get 110 mph winds over the summit tonight. Not a breath of air moving now and 40 degrees! That actually isn't a very good sign as it always warms up before a big storm hits Hope it just rains  here!


Bob B.


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