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Schellville, 2018-04-07, GGRM Construction

I assume this is the new Golden Gate Railroad Museum construction work. In the distance the track to the lumber yard has a couple of new turnouts, making a small yard ladder.

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Comment by Richard C. Brand on April 9, 2018 at 5:29pm

But as I remember the NWP RoW runs into Lombard which is close to city of Napa and the Wine Train.  Is their any chance that the GGRM may have plans to run up the Napa Valley?  The new owners of of the Wine train are well funded and I expect railfans so what if???

I'd love to see steam return to St. Helena with no derail just south of the town.

Comment by Dave S. on April 9, 2018 at 3:25pm

It's great that the GGRM are moving closer to us in the North Bay, but operationally it's going to be a bit messy if the Schellville cage remains as-is, as the Sonoma Pacific spur runs right through it.  So, if the GGRM even wants to take anything out for a short spin they can't go very far without running into that cage.  As you can tell from the other photos, 2009 was parked on that track.

Concerning PTC on steam engines:  it can be done, but there's no point unless they intend to run on the SMART line, which I would imagine is highly unlikely.  Also, there's no PTC protected track east of Ignacio, that's dark territory.  I would urge SMART to push northward with their limited funds.

A steam excursion from Lombard to Schellville to Ignacio and back would be really cool though!  But my gut tells me it wouldn't be allowed to go over the Black Point drawbridge.

BTW:  a lot of this GGRM talk is speculation on my part.  I can't find much evidence that this is still happening.  Plus, the construction underway looks like a big budget job, perhaps beyond the means of a non-profit group.  There should be a way to track down those permits that Bob mentions below and find out more about the project, including the sponsor.  There had to have been a design review approved by the local authorities.  Sorry, I need to get back to work and don't have time!

Comment by Bob Cleek on April 9, 2018 at 2:14pm

BTW, wasn't it reported that somebody pulled permits for a huge warehouse complex right around there with sidings and all?

Comment by Bob Cleek on April 9, 2018 at 2:09pm

"... will not be publicized at the request of the railroads..."  I guess they don't want mobs of railfans and photographers all over their ROWs taking pictures of the GGRM's steam engine running on tracks that may never see a steam engine again.

Can't wait to see her in excursion service on the NWP Co. I'm wondering, though, is it possible to install PTC on a steam engine? I have a hunch the answer is "no."

Comment by Steve Atnip on April 9, 2018 at 1:11pm
From the GGRM newletter, “the move date is unknown to us and will not be publisized at the request of the railroads...”
Comment by Dave S. on April 9, 2018 at 12:51pm

I kick myself now for not walking that spur.  I don't know if there were any cars in the lumber yard on Saturday.

I would say that the spur is about 7 or 8 miles from Lombard.  In the old days the lumber would have come from the mills up by Eureka.  One has to wonder where those cars are being loaded now.

Sonoma Pacific is essentially a new customer as of June 2015.  (Still can't believe it's been three years since that spur was rehabilitated.)

Comment by Richard C. Brand on April 9, 2018 at 11:21am


Thanks for your effort once again.  While you were up there did you see any rail cars in the lumber yard property?  Such a short distance from Lombard that I have wondered if this could be a new customer.

Comment by Dave S. on April 9, 2018 at 5:26am


I tried to address your questions in the following diagram:

Comment by Richard C. Brand on April 8, 2018 at 10:17pm


Thanks much for posting all of these wonderful photos.  Is this a renovation of the old RoW that went up into Sonoma?  I see that the rail crossing that road has been there a while.

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