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NWP pulling the Napa Valley Wine Train. Unknown details.

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Comment by C. P. Huntington on September 11, 2019 at 8:01am

He's serious.

And no, SMART owns the ROW between Healdsburg south to Larkspur and West to Brazos junction with freight rights held by NCRA which in turn has an operating lease with the NWP (NWPCo). Very confusing.

Comment by Richard C. Brand on September 10, 2019 at 10:42pm

Hey team.  Stepping in for Mark here, let's keep the discussion focused on the NWP and SMART railroad issues and not on personal issues ie who is confirming what or what is being posted on other w-site(s) which may have restricted access and have no interest.

If you want to understand the NCRA and its relationship to SMART and the NWP I suggest you attend the next NCRA meeting in Healdsberg Oct 14 http://www.northcoastrailroad.org/meetings.html.  If you are interested in the Napa Valley Wine Train go visit https://www.winetrain.com/.

That line has nothing to do with the NWP except maybe that it travels thru vineyards in northern Calif.

Comment by Al Merkrebs on September 10, 2019 at 7:56pm

Thanks C.P. for the clarifications.

Interesting that Summit Signal does not mention leasing anything on their web site.

Yes, I did use ROW incorrectly. Good to learn that it's an "operating lease" that NWP has, and that it is from NCRA.

Does that mean that SMART also has an operating lease from NCRA?

Comment by C. P. Huntington on September 10, 2019 at 7:06pm

A "leasing company" leases equipment, similar to Hertz car rental.

Summit Signal bought the 5076 to lease to any company interested in leasing it, where NWP used it for a short period of time in exchange for storing it.

NWP is a freight operator for the NCRA who has joint operations on the SMART right of way, NWP does not lease the right of way to or from any other entity but holds a 99 year operating lease with the NCRA to perform freight operations.

ROW or "right of way" refers to the track and the land that the track is on.

Comment by Al Merkrebs on September 10, 2019 at 5:58pm

I'm waiting for Richard Brand's comment on this.

But in the meantime, my thinking is that NWP is a railroad company, not a leasing company. And NWP has ROW (Right of Way) on SMART tracks.

Comment by Al Merkrebs on September 10, 2019 at 5:50pm

A quick Google search show that Summit Signal (https://summitsignalinc.com) is located in Willits, and offers the following services:

- Complete Railroad Signal System Installations

- Railroad Grade Crossing Replacements

- Upgrades

Maybe Summit Signal owns 5076 for use in their testing? Anyone know for sure?

Comment by Richard C. Brand on September 10, 2019 at 3:56pm

Who is Summit Signal?  A leasing co?

Comment by Graeme Ceballos on September 10, 2019 at 1:36pm

Summit Signal owns 5076

Comment by Emilio Galo on March 7, 2017 at 11:18am

What the heck? I thought NWP owned 5076... Can we have a locomotive that is NOT leased?

Comment by steven richard bell on February 19, 2017 at 11:33pm

Were these  2 shots supposed to be arranged in way they are?  Shouldn't there be a separation between the 2?  Difficult to view either shot. 

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