Grading work at Shellville - Northwestern Pacific Railroad Network2024-03-29T05:09:19Zhttps://nwprr.net/forum/topics/grading-work-at-shellville?commentId=3290209%3AComment%3A179291&feed=yes&xn_auth=noNot sure about the town Lamey…tag:nwprr.net,2018-02-26:3290209:Comment:1829262018-02-26T20:22:36.590ZBob Burnshttps://nwprr.net/profile/BobBurns
<p>Not sure about the town Lamey "sounds familiar" though, the guy giving us the tour (retired doctor) said there is an issue with weight and one of the volunteers was member of a fire dept somewhere on the line that will fill the water tender after the bridge has been crossed. Will get better details the next time we visit the shop though.</p>
<p>Not sure about the town Lamey "sounds familiar" though, the guy giving us the tour (retired doctor) said there is an issue with weight and one of the volunteers was member of a fire dept somewhere on the line that will fill the water tender after the bridge has been crossed. Will get better details the next time we visit the shop though.</p> Is that "other town" you ment…tag:nwprr.net,2018-02-26:3290209:Comment:1827522018-02-26T06:33:07.485ZRichard C. Brandhttps://nwprr.net/profile/RichardCBrand
<p>Is that "other town" you mention here Lamey which is the historic ATSF junction from the East-West mainline into the town of Santa Fe? Last I heard though was that there was a bridge on the Santa Fe Southern line from Santa Fe to Lamey that washed out frequently. Might be the same one which could have shut down the SF Southern.</p>
<p>I took the Rail Runner several times but the last time about 3 years ago, it took so longer to get from Albuquerque to Santa Fe that I was bummed. My brother…</p>
<p>Is that "other town" you mention here Lamey which is the historic ATSF junction from the East-West mainline into the town of Santa Fe? Last I heard though was that there was a bridge on the Santa Fe Southern line from Santa Fe to Lamey that washed out frequently. Might be the same one which could have shut down the SF Southern.</p>
<p>I took the Rail Runner several times but the last time about 3 years ago, it took so longer to get from Albuquerque to Santa Fe that I was bummed. My brother who lived in Santa Fe said that residents who lived along the line and who as tax payers demanded that the train stop in their small towns along the way which slowed down the trip to Santa Fe even though on my last ride there were no passengers at the many new stops.</p>
<p>Classic New Mexico problems.</p>
<p>Enjoy, Richard</p> I thought they's run her up t…tag:nwprr.net,2018-02-25:3290209:Comment:1829242018-02-25T21:04:38.770ZBob Burnshttps://nwprr.net/profile/BobBurns
<p>I thought they's run her up to Santa FE as there is passenger service from south of ABQ at Belen to Santa FE "The RailRunner" $1.00 each way for seniors on Weds. Financially they are in trouble and talk is about shutting down the service, as ridership is down and they never have been profitable, working of taxpayer monies, so some are calling to eliminate it.</p>
<p>But they told me the name of another town they plan on running to if they can operate under the insurance from Amtrak, they…</p>
<p>I thought they's run her up to Santa FE as there is passenger service from south of ABQ at Belen to Santa FE "The RailRunner" $1.00 each way for seniors on Weds. Financially they are in trouble and talk is about shutting down the service, as ridership is down and they never have been profitable, working of taxpayer monies, so some are calling to eliminate it.</p>
<p>But they told me the name of another town they plan on running to if they can operate under the insurance from Amtrak, they can't afford the insurance other wise. The guy giving us the tour mentioned something about not being able to cross a certain bridge somewhere maybe that was on the route to Santa Fe? Next time we visit the restoration shop I'll try to get more info!</p> My brother used to live in Sa…tag:nwprr.net,2018-02-25:3290209:Comment:1829222018-02-25T06:32:29.624ZRichard C. Brandhttps://nwprr.net/profile/RichardCBrand
<p>My brother used to live in Santa Fe and I rode the Santa Fe Southern a few times. Last I was there they were shut down. Is that still the case? Is their RoW from Lamey still usable for a 4-8-4? As I remember that line had at least some 2% grades, a challenge for even a big steamer.</p>
<p>Stay healthy.</p>
<p>Richard</p>
<p>My brother used to live in Santa Fe and I rode the Santa Fe Southern a few times. Last I was there they were shut down. Is that still the case? Is their RoW from Lamey still usable for a 4-8-4? As I remember that line had at least some 2% grades, a challenge for even a big steamer.</p>
<p>Stay healthy.</p>
<p>Richard</p> Hi Richard
Yeah they don't le…tag:nwprr.net,2018-02-25:3290209:Comment:1826672018-02-25T00:03:40.527ZBob Burnshttps://nwprr.net/profile/BobBurns
<p>Hi Richard</p>
<p>Yeah they don't let me out very often! :-)</p>
<p>We live in Albuquerque NM now. After my last medical issues I wanted to be closer to my daughter, just in case. She is a physician here now and an Assistant Professor of Clinical Medicine at the University, and her hubby is an engineer with one of the Defense contractors so don't ask me what he does, cuz I don't know and we don't ask! They said they'd never move back to CA so we moved here!</p>
<p>The local RR Society is…</p>
<p>Hi Richard</p>
<p>Yeah they don't let me out very often! :-)</p>
<p>We live in Albuquerque NM now. After my last medical issues I wanted to be closer to my daughter, just in case. She is a physician here now and an Assistant Professor of Clinical Medicine at the University, and her hubby is an engineer with one of the Defense contractors so don't ask me what he does, cuz I don't know and we don't ask! They said they'd never move back to CA so we moved here!</p>
<p>The local RR Society is restoring a big Santa FE steam locomotive they hope to have on the line by 2019, it past it's boiler test, we were there the day the inspector was coming, boy were those guys nervous! <a href="http://nmslrhs.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">http://nmslrhs.org/</a> Interesting group, many actual "rocket" scientists, doctors and varied other highly educated people. Plus a few with actual RR experience with the 4-8-4 all super nice people! </p>
<p>We'll be back in the Sonoma area in mid May for my 50th SVHS reunion.</p>
<p>Will be interesting to see what has changed in the past couple of years.</p>
<p>Isn't any of that debris haul hazmat?</p> Bob: Good to hear from you a…tag:nwprr.net,2018-02-24:3290209:Comment:1829152018-02-24T21:18:17.946ZRichard C. Brandhttps://nwprr.net/profile/RichardCBrand
<p>Bob: Good to hear from you again and good backgrounder. The whole trucking thing was poison for the railroads and our highways. I was up in Santa Rosa last weekend and there were so many trucks on 101 hauling debris I assume down to the Novato land fill.</p>
<p>But Chad or others it has been 2 dry months since you made your observation about the grading. Is there any new construction happening at the site? This new customer could be the reason that NWP ex VP Jake Park rebuilt the Sonoma…</p>
<p>Bob: Good to hear from you again and good backgrounder. The whole trucking thing was poison for the railroads and our highways. I was up in Santa Rosa last weekend and there were so many trucks on 101 hauling debris I assume down to the Novato land fill.</p>
<p>But Chad or others it has been 2 dry months since you made your observation about the grading. Is there any new construction happening at the site? This new customer could be the reason that NWP ex VP Jake Park rebuilt the Sonoma line in anticipation of this new customer.</p>
<p></p> Will be interesting, back in…tag:nwprr.net,2018-02-24:3290209:Comment:1829112018-02-24T05:50:41.186ZBob Burnshttps://nwprr.net/profile/BobBurns
<p>Will be interesting, back in the 1960s-1990's Groskopf-Wieder hauled wine and spirits and other commodities at RAIL rates, by truck to undercut rail shipping. Under the PUC laws at the time it was legal as long as the shipper had a rail siding to one of their warehouse locations (Sebastiani's at the time). Shippers used G&W due to point A to B shipping, no need for trans shipping or having a rail siding on the receivers property. I still have my freight tags from when I sub hauled for…</p>
<p>Will be interesting, back in the 1960s-1990's Groskopf-Wieder hauled wine and spirits and other commodities at RAIL rates, by truck to undercut rail shipping. Under the PUC laws at the time it was legal as long as the shipper had a rail siding to one of their warehouse locations (Sebastiani's at the time). Shippers used G&W due to point A to B shipping, no need for trans shipping or having a rail siding on the receivers property. I still have my freight tags from when I sub hauled for G&W. Hauled "pigs" (piggybacks) to Santa Fe yard in Richmond and containers to the Matson Yard in Oakland. Used to make two loops per week to LA and back hand stacking, repallatizing 1300 cases of wine or 151 Bacardi Rum or Hiram Walker spirits! I do remember them loading an occasion box car at Sebatiani's in town while we loaded trucks right next to it. That was before G&W moved to Vineberg and then went belly up, sorry but it couldn't have happened to a better group of people! Got "educated" by one of their drivers and found out how they were screwing me over.</p> I stand corrected - they *do*…tag:nwprr.net,2017-12-26:3290209:Comment:1821892017-12-26T06:40:33.337ZJoseph Mullerhttps://nwprr.net/profile/JosephMuller
I stand corrected - they *do* have plans to extend tracks into/beside the facility. Good business switching those out.
I stand corrected - they *do* have plans to extend tracks into/beside the facility. Good business switching those out. I swore that was the spot GGR…tag:nwprr.net,2017-12-25:3290209:Comment:1821202017-12-25T07:13:29.345ZC Glovehttps://nwprr.net/profile/ChadGlover
<p>I swore that was the spot GGRM was going. Oh well, anyone know where they will be? I did notice in the second picture of the article that there will be new track laid for the warehouse. Looks like box cars will be back </p>
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<p>I swore that was the spot GGRM was going. Oh well, anyone know where they will be? I did notice in the second picture of the article that there will be new track laid for the warehouse. Looks like box cars will be back </p>
<p></p> No mention of rail service (i…tag:nwprr.net,2017-12-25:3290209:Comment:1821162017-12-25T06:24:11.361ZJoseph Mullerhttps://nwprr.net/profile/JosephMuller
No mention of rail service (it's already right there and a spur could be built for practically nothing) - hate to think what a mess 25 loading docks will make of route 121 and 8th street in/out of Sonoma.
No mention of rail service (it's already right there and a spur could be built for practically nothing) - hate to think what a mess 25 loading docks will make of route 121 and 8th street in/out of Sonoma.