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Comment by Richard C. Brand on November 14, 2016 at 7:59pm


This reads like a description of a VW van-camper of which I have had several with much enjoyment.  NOt so much of a "speedster" as you ? but still a wonderful way to enjoy the beautiful Sonoma Valley.  So go north on 101 from Petaluma into Mendocino County take some pictures in the Willits yard and post them for us. 

Take your velocipede with you in the van because up there you could have a great ride but also be careful of those tunnels and have a Happy Thanksgiving up in that country that I love.

Comment by steven richard bell on November 14, 2016 at 6:40pm

My speedster is a Westfalia Marigold color speedster(?) built about 1976. It seats 4 with room for tools etc. below ,  Not very powerful but practicle  if you like tickles.  No photos as it is not photogenic. I plan on being in Petaluma on Nov. 21 with it. 

Comment by Richard C. Brand on November 14, 2016 at 2:31pm


You are probably right about enforcement as there seems to be a major effort by one of the agencies to patrol the active grade crossings.  Last week I saw people get pretty anxious to go around the crossing gates when a DMU was approaching slowly.  There was a lot of DMU traffic going up and down the RoW. 

Steven somebody in this forum must know, I don't, but there should be a w-site dedicated to speeders.  What model do you have?  Would you send a picture to this site?

Comment by Bob Cleek on November 14, 2016 at 11:34am

Being as the SMART ROW runs to the Headsburg station, and as the entire line north of that is presently idle NCRA ROW, I'd expect that it's not legally available for public velocipede or speeder recreational use.  On the SMART section, you may encounter the SMART police and perhaps local enforcement on the rest.  I'd check before making a run.  It isn't like you might run into a train on the ROW, but you may run into a trespassing citation.  Just sayin'.

Comment by Chad Gustafson on November 14, 2016 at 11:14am
Richard, the Windsor depot, a few feet north of Windsor River Road, serves as the cut off line, anything north is considered out of service. I did see a SMART DMU sitting out front of the depot after using the siding year or so ago, but haven't seen anything else cross Windsor River Road before.
Comment by Richard C. Brand on November 14, 2016 at 10:39am

Thanks Scott.  Do you know or does anyone else know how far north of Windsor River Rd the tracks are usable for freight?

Steven you may want to learn the answer to my question too as the line north of Petaluma can be pretty busy.  Last Thursday when I was up in Windsor south of the airport, smart trains made at least 6 passes within 3 hours.

Comment by steven richard bell on November 14, 2016 at 10:21am

How does one get to Windsor?  Go via 101 or follow the tracks? I have a speeder and velocipede so can I use either to get there from Petaluma where I will be entering onto tracks? What days is the NWP not operating so I can travel unimpeded by rail operation?  I will be in Petaluma on November 21. Thanks

Comment by Scott Kremer on November 14, 2016 at 1:26am


Thanks, and what I mean by that is if you go to the Windsor Train Station, look South, there is a side track there that the NWP uses when they go to Windsor to run around the consist to get the locomotive on the other end. 

Here is a link to Google Maps street view, facing the siding they use, just zoom in and you'll see it:,-122.8167614,3a,75y,170.3h,...!3m7!1e1!3m5!1suiD58rjuRouNuIO3587oLQ!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Comment by Richard C. Brand on November 14, 2016 at 12:42am


You are our star video capture person and I love your work so keep it up.

But I don't understand your comments that 5076 "...ran up to the siding at the Windsor Depot, where the line ends, ran around, and headed back to Schellville short hood forward.  Given that there is no loop up there, do you mean that 5076 just uncoupled and then ran down south around the consist and recoupled on the other end?  If so did they use an old NWP off-line spur in Windsor to get around the freight cars?  

James Bradley has posted about the fact that the Starr Road grade crossing on the smart RoW in Windsor has not been upgraded.  I'm hoping that this freight activity in north Windsor is an indication of a push on opening the line north even without smart.  

Comment by Chris on November 14, 2016 at 12:37am

aaah  ok!

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