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Hey, i had one questine. I recently visited the Cal State RR mueseum, and explored pretty much the whole site, but could find no trace of NWP 10 wheeler #112. The closest i came to a NWP piece of rolling stock was one of the NPC locos on display in the round house.
I asked an employee (or vollunteer, i can't remember) where #112 was. He said he didn't know of any NWP equiment. When i got home, I cheaked the CSRRM website, but didn't find anything NWP, except that the museum in Jamestown has a old handcar. ????????????????????????
Also, i visited the Western Railway Muesium in Rio Vista. I saw in a movie and read in a couple of books that their were various steam locos around, but couldnt find any. I took a ride in P&SR street car around the grounds, but didn't see anything but old rusting street car parts. If anyone knows about these, please leave a comment or send me a message or something........

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Comment by powerpawsnw on July 26, 2010 at 11:01am
The general consensus short of the facts (nothing left to sample in the way of historic locomotives with green paint intact) is that the original NWP two-tone green was a deep green along the lines of coach or Pullman green and a gray-green for the lighter hue. Fred Stindt honestly didn't remember what the 4-4-0s actually wore, and neither did his older cronies. Memory is a lousy judging tool when it comes to color -- being entirely subjective and prone to color blindness, lack of training (in an art sense) get my drift I trust.
Comment by Cory W Swank on July 24, 2010 at 4:28pm
I hadn't heard the whole green boiler thing had been laid to rest. Thank goodness for that. One American I can live with but a fleet would just be ewwww haha. Also good to hear the #3 won't be shut down for government negligence after the fact. That would be about right.

Comment by Chad Gustafson on July 24, 2010 at 4:13pm
Thanks everyone for the help and info, very cool to learn green wasn't her origional paint.
Have a good one,

Comment by powerpawsnw on July 24, 2010 at 9:54am
Actually, there was a glitch in the new welded boiler FRA code that did not require certification prior to a fabrication contract being signed. The State and Feds discovered this only when the job was finished. The point is, there have been so few new locomotive boilers fabricated thus far in the US and at spots all over the country, no one knew all the code variables. The new boiler was entirely ultrasound scoped and hydro-tested and certified by the State boiler inspector. I had heard that the FRA is working on a waiver for this one instance, but haven't heard anything in 3 weeks. I wouldn't fret.
Comment by powerpawsnw on July 23, 2010 at 8:41pm
She's stored inside the SP Boiler Shop. There's just not room for everything on the premises for public display. As we know now, the green colors with tan boiler jacket was "made up" by Fred Stindt and applied to her by Bethlehem Shipyard as a cosmetic "restoration." Fred was a dear old friend, but it took me much prodding to get him to admit that only a very few American Standard 4-4-0s wore a 2-tone green paint job and that the boiler jackets were not tan but a planished metal called "American Iron," (a Russia Iron knockoff, grayish in color). Once he admitted that on the record, CSRM hoped to again cosmetically redo the 112 in black and graphite the way she looked as a freight engine near the end of her service life. She'll never run again without some serious and very expensive reconstruction. The engine frame is twisted as a result of two bad in-service wrecks and the mud-ring in the firebox is scorched and warped from neglect when the NWP ran the "pants off her" in the late '40s. Basically her frame needs to be taken apart, straightened, reriveted together and a whole new welded boiler would have to be fabricated. The State of CA is in no fiscal shape to pay for that. It was all CSRM and the CSRM Foundation's benefactors could do to get Sierra Ry No.3 reboilered. Don't lose hope, but don't hold your breath, either. She's safe indoors and that matters most right now.
Comment by Chad Gustafson on September 8, 2009 at 5:24pm
Okay, i talked to a guy in my train club and he said that the museum in Rio Vista has sold all of their steam except 1 because of finatial issues. I still have ot found anything on 112
Comment by Chad Gustafson on September 4, 2009 at 5:52pm
no prob
Comment by Mark Drury on September 4, 2009 at 9:55am
Yes, there doesn't appear to be much info on the CSRM website about NWP #112. I do see it listed on the Steam Locomotives roster found at (search for "nwp" on that page), but that's about it. I assume it's still on the property somewhere, but perhaps not. I placed some images of #112 (images you may already have seen) in the following album:


Mark D.

P.S. If you learn anything more about that handcar please let me know.

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