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 I must assume that people don't see the humor that I add to comments (i.e. Carthage building Rome) I must preface and suffix all my humorously intended comments as humor.

  However, since there is Car in Carthage we are talking about "car loads" of traffic to/from Eureka. The fully loaded cars of lumber would be about  100 tons plus tare wait ( I know that to tarry is to wait) and tarry wait on NWP to reestablish service to Eureka will be long-ton weight. My assumption is that the centerbeam flats now used to haul lumber have a capacity of approx. 190,000 lbs. Haven't looked closely at a centerbeam flat recently to remember capacity or load limit or light weight.

   It wood ( would) be nice to see NWP moving freight once again to/from Eureka on a provitable basis. Maybe it could be extended to Crescent City and thence to Grants Pass for another connection with the Southern Pacif

ic or Union Pacific line. 

   Before anyone responds to above statement I shall add that YES I am aware of the extreme difficulty of adding segment of line north to Crescent City and on to Grants Pass. I have driven that road and can see the challange entailed in building a rail line there. Perhaps an extremely long tunnel with a 1 to 1.5 % grade could be built by using all of Federal budget for next few years. Put all the money being spent (wasted) on wars in Afganistan and Iraq and next in Iran and Pakistan into funding a tunnel. LOL (humorous intent)  I always enjoy humor in tent  or outside of tent too.  

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Comment by Chad Gustafson on November 19, 2011 at 9:03pm

Well, we'll just have to see. ;)

Comment by Zachary M. Toler on November 19, 2011 at 7:41pm

 

I agree w/Chad 100%. We need to get more of the NWP open, i.e. to Healdsburg, Cloverdale and Willits, and figure out what to do with and about SMART first. By the time they do all of that, the economy could be totally different than it is right now. Once we reach Willits, THEN we can debate the merits of whether going further north or not make sense (or cents). It's too far off in the future to call now.

 

   Regards,

Zachary M. Toler

Comment by Chad Gustafson on November 19, 2011 at 5:44pm

I personaly believe that if the NCRA and Humbolt Bay get together and form a plan about the container port, and that plan is put into action, trains to Eureka would work out. But with the current economy, this is a very, very, long way's off. Lets focus on getting to Healdsburg,  Cloverdale and Willits, and then SMART before we seriously take on Eel River Canyon. I don't mind the debates between weather or not it will run, or "work out", but don't get to serious. 

Comment by Mike Davis on November 17, 2011 at 5:22pm

Oh now I get it Hahaha

Comment by Chad Gustafson on November 17, 2011 at 5:19pm

Mike, calm down..it was a joke, although a little on the lame side, I got it. Chill..its all good.

Comment by Mike Davis on November 17, 2011 at 5:14pm

Hey Steven, with all due respect, you are making less sense than dollar stores, Helicopter transported intermodal? Tunneling north to Oregon? Huh?!?!?!?!? And the most recent example "Even prefer great holes for posts to be fitted. A good post-fitting hole is hard to find. Even harder to dig. Especially in bedrock or granite" what does that mean in English?

Comment by Chad Gustafson on November 17, 2011 at 4:50pm

I like good posts too, but moving containers by helocopter; or tunneling through to Oregon? Come on.. 

Impossible. 

No way shape or form will the NWP tunnel up through to Grants Pass, its impossible, and the NWP already has a interchange in Schelleville and American Canyon, eliminating the need for anouther one.

Good on the possitive thinking, but the only thing that will make the NWP north of Willits profitable will be the container port. The containers will only be moved by railcar, if it does happen. There no more lumber market up there, and there wont be for a long, long time. End of story. 

If you post forums, you have to be ready for feedback, not all of it will be posstive..

-Chad Gustafson

Comment by steven richard bell on November 17, 2011 at 2:20pm

I enjoy excellent posts. Even prefer great holes for posts to be fitted. A good post-fitting hole is hard to find. Even harder to dig. Especially in bedrock or granite.

Comment by Thad Wuest on November 17, 2011 at 12:45pm

Excellent posting!!  I make the drive to Crescent City EVERYDAY.  Plans were scrapped for good reason long ago!!!

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