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Is steam excursion service in the NWP's future?
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Read the below link and let the speculation begin!…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Richard Sotelo Oct 19.

Share your news about the Golden Gate Railroad Museum's move to Schellville.
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I'm not sure if it's really been discussed here much, but a quick review of local railroad related social media sites reveals that the Golden Gate Railroad Museum, late of temporary residence at…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Bob Cleek Aug 25, 2017.

SMART "Chewbacca car" numbering system questions?
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Started this discussion. Last reply by Steve Atnip Apr 8, 2015.

Semi carrying old trucks in Novato?
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Last night around seven, I saw a flatbed semi parked by Shamrock on Redwood Boulevard in Novato carrying two old-looking sets of trucks last night.  Looks like they were destined to be put underneath…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by HUTCH 7.62 Nov 23, 2014.

 

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Prisoner Rail Car's in Tiburon

"Somebody somewhere researched this previously. The initial transport was by train cars as pictured. Alcatraz had no rail dock, of course. Prisoners got off the train cars and walked from the barge to the dock. Al Capone was transferred to Alcatraz…"
Tuesday
Bob Cleek replied to Dave S.'s discussion Facing Deadlier Fires, California Tries Something New: More Logging
"It would be nice to see the timber industry revived, but there's a lot more to it than meets the eye. It's all about the profit margin. Difficult terrain and "selective harvesting" can really run the extraction costs of the…"
Nov 20
Bob Cleek replied to Richard C. Brand's discussion NWPRR Freight
"There are a number of very large disposal sites in the Western US that are more than happy to take all the garbage anybody sends them... for a price. There's one in Nevada, I believe, that is served by rail. They are way the hell and gone out…"
Nov 1
Bob Cleek replied to Richard C. Brand's discussion NWPRR Freight
"Why? Let me count the ways! First off, the ROW out from Petaluma to its former terminus at Two Rock has been permanently built over. Most recently, Petaluma built a street on top of it a few years ago where it intersected with Petaluma Boulevard…"
Nov 1
Bob Cleek replied to Richard C. Brand's discussion NWPRR Freight
"I'd expect there'd be plenty of places north of Santa Rosa where a transfer station could be built that could serve the entire north coast. Willits would work. The farther north you go, the less NIMBY it gets. How do they expect to handle…"
Oct 30
Bob Cleek replied to Richard C. Brand's discussion NWPRR Freight
"I believe the Mechum Road dump has been full for some time and is now basically a transfer and recycling facility. (Their recycling yard is full of goodies. It's hard not to pick up something "you might need someday" every time you go…"
Oct 30
Richard Sotelo replied to Bob Cleek's discussion Is steam excursion service in the NWP's future?
"  This is a great thread guys. All kinds of ideas and possibilities.  As for proclamations made by SMART before passage of SB-1029. I would say this. SMART will have to rethink every position it has made on freight.…"
Oct 19
Bob Cleek replied to Bob Cleek's discussion Is steam excursion service in the NWP's future?
"If the Napa Valley Railroad's ("Wine Train") is any indication, I'd beg to differ with your assertion that "passenger excursion service is not a profitable operation." The NVRR was bought three years ago from its…"
Oct 19
Bob Cleek replied to Bob Cleek's discussion Is steam excursion service in the NWP's future?
"About all that can be said for sure is that "further developments are pending." If SMART swallows NCRA as far north as Willits, SMART will simply step into NCRA's shoes. (Caltrans gets NCRA north of Willits, as I understand it.) That…"
Oct 19
Richard C. Brand replied to Bob Cleek's discussion Is steam excursion service in the NWP's future?
"Bob Cleek and James Bradley: This is a great thread.  Shows the value of this w-site with real information.  Now that I am paying into the SMART coffer with my taxes here in Santa Rosa, I will keep a full court press on what they do. To…"
Oct 18
Jeff Moore replied to Bob Cleek's discussion Is steam excursion service in the NWP's future?
"James- The heart of the underlying issues are the legal agreements at play. Back in 1996 with the public bought the south end, the original owner was the Northwestern Pacific Railroad Authority, owned by Golden Gate Bridge District, Marin County…"
Oct 18
James Bradley, Jr. replied to Bob Cleek's discussion Is steam excursion service in the NWP's future?
"I don't know much about how contracts work, so this is just a question.  If SMART buys out the NWP contract when the NCRA is dissolved, are they still bound by the terms of that contract?  The agreement between SMART and NWP states…"
Oct 18
Bob Cleek replied to Bob Cleek's discussion Is steam excursion service in the NWP's future?
"NWP Co.'s contract provides them with an exclusive freight and passenger excursion service over SMART's ROW."
Oct 18
Bob Cleek replied to Bob Cleek's discussion Is steam excursion service in the NWP's future?
"I feel your pain! FB is a PIA."
Oct 18
Bob Cleek replied to Bob Cleek's discussion Is steam excursion service in the NWP's future?
"I drew no conclusions. The title was a question: "Is steam excursion service in the NWP's future?"  "Did you read my post: "Read the below link and let the speculation begin.""
Oct 18
Bob Burns replied to Bob Cleek's discussion Is steam excursion service in the NWP's future?
"Well it would be nice to see steam again on the NWP. Unfortunately I'm old enough to remember active steam operations at Schellville. seen when we visited my cousin the blacksmith that had his property across the tracks from the Depot. One can…"
Oct 18

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Serious RR collection on Craigslist

I tripped over this new ad on Craigslist.  https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/atq/6013328045.html  It looks like a very serious RR collection is being liquidated.  Perhaps some of the collectors in here might be interested.

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At 4:03pm on January 16, 2014, Robert Hogan said…

Alan Pegler's  ex-LNE Flying Scotsman 4-6-2 and a British passenger train (8 cars I think) steamed down through central California on the Western Pacific and into Oakland on September 27, 1971.  This was the end of a national tour for the train.

The Flying Scotsman and train then operated a three car passenger train along the San Francisco embarcadero on the S.F. Belt Railway during the spring of 1972.  Perhaps this is what is remembered.  Ultimately the entire train was pulled back to Stockton on the WP and placed in storage at the Army Supply base.  Later the "Flying Scotsman" locomotive, a famous and well-loved steamer in the UK, was returned to the UK and remains in steam there to this day.

Hope this helps!

Bob Hogan

At 5:00pm on July 3, 2012, Mark Drury said…

Welcome to the NWPRR Network, Bob! Please take a look around and let me know if you have any questions or comments. We're adding content daily and actively recruiting new members -- please feel free to invite your own friends if you think they may be interested. Regards,

Mark Drury

 
 
 

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