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Northwestern Pacific to Healdsburg


Northwestern Pacific to Healdsburg

A group for people who would love to see the NWP start serving Healdsburg's SYAR quarry and other industries.

Location: Healdsburg, CA
Members: 18
Latest Activity: Oct 11, 2017

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Syar Is awful for our environment. 7 Replies

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Started by Joe. Last reply by Tommytommy Sep 29, 2014.

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Comment by Chad Glover on October 1, 2014 at 2:52pm

I didn't mean to suggest that there is nothing we can do.  i was just making a general statement.  The lettering writing and attending meetings are great.  My oldest needed to attend a public meeting for a class and i recomended one of the SMART meetings to him.  I would love to see the trains running through Windsor again and like everyone else wish it would happen tomorrow.

Comment by Richard C. Brand on October 1, 2014 at 1:03pm

Congratulations on the sons Chad.

But as John Williams told me there is something ""we" can do"and that is to contact our Senators and Congress people and ask them to support this new birth.  I think you have said here that you have done so.

I STRONGLY urge others on this site to take the time to do so as well.  I have a pending appeal which I can't divulge right now, to get some extraordinary funding for the NCRA.  As soon as I can, I'll need everybody to write something tbd.

Comment by Chad Glover on October 1, 2014 at 12:31pm

Richard,  That's what I was after to compare having kids and rebuilding a railroad and yes I have two sons so I know all about the expenses, seen and unseen.  I was trying to point out that there's not much "we" can do but it will happen sooner or later. Just need to keep the faith. This is a unique time for those of us that are NWP fans.  Just wanted to give something for everyone to think about.  We rail fans are a crazy bunch :)

Comment by Richard C. Brand on October 1, 2014 at 11:37am


You would make a good writer using this metaphor.  Keep at it.

But as for sitting back, the NWP and the NCRA are business entities and as such cannot sit back and wait.  They each have expenses (image the leasing costs for those 3 locomotives and the pay for employees) that have to be met today with revenue from customers.  The sooner the line is opened to the north the sooner they can reach their revenue goals. 

I would imagine that both are being funded by investors who pay the bills today and the funding is/was based on a business plan with dates for new customers.  They lost Standard Structures which was a prime customer so they need alternatives.  

Don't know if you have any children but having them is an expensive proposition even before they are born.  Same for the NWP, they have to buy fuel, and pay expenses that don't wait.  

Comment by Chad Glover on September 30, 2014 at 4:40pm
Listening to all this talk about hurry up and build it, why haven't they, when will this happen, etc... Made me look at this another way. We are all taking part part in the birth(or rebirth) of a railroad right in front of our eyes. We will be able to sit in front of our grand kids or children for the younger fans and tell them "I remeber when they ran the first rain to Petaluma,Windsor,Healdsburg, Ukiah and Willits" 9 months for a baby to be born and might be 9 years for this railroad to be born. Sit back and enjoy the ride. Plus we would only be talking about trains running, much more interesting to have the different aspects to discus as this line slowly comes to life. It's like asking will it be a boy or a girl, what color to paint the room, what cloths to buy and who's going to be the babysitter. Watching whats happening here rarely takes place. Most the time the tracks are torn up and that's the end. Appreciate what's happening with the NWP and the anticipation of maybe having twins.
Comment by Mike Cook on September 29, 2014 at 10:25pm

Well said Richard, and thank you to you, Chad and all the others working to get the NWP reopened from Windsor to Redwood Valley and Ukiah!  Next up, Willits :) I do what I can, but we need to instill a sense of urgency to this area, both the people and their officials, we in Mendocino County need the line back up and running badly, as does Northern Sonoma County, it's already taken too long as it is, we need to make sure they have fire lit under their rears.

Comment by Chad Gustafson on September 29, 2014 at 9:55pm
I've written twice, and I got one of my teachers to write one as well.

It's hard to get away from my model trains too. I went outside for a few minutes yesterday, it was cool I guess but my railroad seemed more realistic.
Comment by Richard C. Brand on September 29, 2014 at 7:41pm

As I posted last May on this forum, get away from your computers and your model trains and get involved with and send a letter to your local US Congress person to support the NWP TIGER.  I wrote a letter this last August to my US Congress woman Anna Eschoo and her office called back today saying they would be happy to help but because the NWP is not physically located in her (SF Peninsula) district that I need to contact the Sonoma Cty Congressperson (Hoffman?).  

This is the way that NWP will get to Healdsburg via TIGER and all of you living in the district MUST WRITE to your representatives in support.  Other wise no train.

Comment by Richard C. Brand on May 28, 2014 at 11:05am

I encourage all on this forum to read the TIGER VI grant application that has been submitted by the NCRA for restoration of the RoW from Healdsburg to Ukiah.  This is the url: and the document, Item F1 can be found in the "packet".  Note that this is only an application and that local support is critical to having these  grants approved by the feds in Washington.

As for getting from Windsor to Healdsburg via SMART that may be the bigger problem.


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