What if the tracks from Ukiah to Willits were restored to make way for a scenic railway? - Northwestern Pacific Railroad Network2024-03-29T01:42:55Zhttp://nwprr.net/forum/topics/what-if-the-tracks-from-ukiah-to-willits-were-restored-to-make?commentId=3290209%3AComment%3A194195&feed=yes&xn_auth=no There is also the fact that…tag:nwprr.net,2019-07-19:3290209:Comment:1940082019-07-19T14:42:53.765ZRichard Sotelohttp://nwprr.net/profile/RichardSotelo
<p> There is also the fact that Mendocino County is not part of the SMART system. If the voters of Mendocino County made that decision to tax themselves and become a part of SMART. Then, yes, we could start to talk about rebuilding the Right of Way all the way from Cloverdale to Willits.</p>
<p> There is also the fact that Mendocino County is not part of the SMART system. If the voters of Mendocino County made that decision to tax themselves and become a part of SMART. Then, yes, we could start to talk about rebuilding the Right of Way all the way from Cloverdale to Willits.</p> If it snows in the Mendocino…tag:nwprr.net,2019-07-18:3290209:Comment:1940022019-07-18T19:30:58.760ZJohn Rothhttp://nwprr.net/profile/JohnRoth
<p>If it snows in the Mendocino County mountains, it might be very scenic. If not, it would look the same as in the summer since those are all evergreen trees up there. They could sell hot chocolate on board like the Niles Canyon Railway, and run a Christmas train also like NCRY.</p>
<p>If it snows in the Mendocino County mountains, it might be very scenic. If not, it would look the same as in the summer since those are all evergreen trees up there. They could sell hot chocolate on board like the Niles Canyon Railway, and run a Christmas train also like NCRY.</p> Just as I thought Richard..…tag:nwprr.net,2019-07-11:3290209:Comment:1939932019-07-11T17:32:36.354Zjbriograndehttp://nwprr.net/profile/jbriogrande
<p> Just as I thought Richard....the politicians are in bed with the Teamsters or whatever we call them these days. Yes, it seems as though they see rail, as passenger rail, and are blind to the opportunities that a freight service might provide. I wonder just how much freight could be garnered for the NWP,... North of Windsor.</p>
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<p> Just as I thought Richard....the politicians are in bed with the Teamsters or whatever we call them these days. Yes, it seems as though they see rail, as passenger rail, and are blind to the opportunities that a freight service might provide. I wonder just how much freight could be garnered for the NWP,... North of Windsor.</p>
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NCRA has been castrated (…tag:nwprr.net,2019-07-11:3290209:Comment:1940962019-07-11T07:03:33.032ZRichard C. Brandhttp://nwprr.net/profile/RichardCBrand
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<p>NCRA has been castrated (Mark can we use that term?) first by Deukmajian and now by other north coast politicos who have ZERO knowledge of the harm that these overloaded 45 foot semi trailers are doing to our highways up here. In addition those politicos have no understanding of the FRA classification of freight rail vs passenger rail and have no understanding of the benefits of what a freight service can provide to a rural/farming economy. </p>
<p>Just today while we were…</p>
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<p>NCRA has been castrated (Mark can we use that term?) first by Deukmajian and now by other north coast politicos who have ZERO knowledge of the harm that these overloaded 45 foot semi trailers are doing to our highways up here. In addition those politicos have no understanding of the FRA classification of freight rail vs passenger rail and have no understanding of the benefits of what a freight service can provide to a rural/farming economy. </p>
<p>Just today while we were driving up to Cloverdale, my wife asked me why the existing rail line thru Geyserville is not being used? </p>
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<p></p> That's great Richard.....I be…tag:nwprr.net,2019-07-11:3290209:Comment:1939152019-07-11T06:53:46.171Zjbriograndehttp://nwprr.net/profile/jbriogrande
<p>That's great Richard.....I believe it is about time that they begin marching on that project. Too many years have passed without action, and there is freight to be moved off of the highway. SMART seems to be blunting the expansion efforts at every turn. Good luck with that project,...I wish you much success !!! Does the NCRA have a strong lobby, or do they have to absorb what is dictated to them by a higher authority?</p>
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<p>That's great Richard.....I believe it is about time that they begin marching on that project. Too many years have passed without action, and there is freight to be moved off of the highway. SMART seems to be blunting the expansion efforts at every turn. Good luck with that project,...I wish you much success !!! Does the NCRA have a strong lobby, or do they have to absorb what is dictated to them by a higher authority?</p>
<p></p> Hey JB happy to have you invo…tag:nwprr.net,2019-07-11:3290209:Comment:1939132019-07-11T06:42:56.951ZRichard C. Brandhttp://nwprr.net/profile/RichardCBrand
<p>Hey JB happy to have you involved again. </p>
<p>As a Sonoma County resident, I'm now working with some NCRA locals to get the freight line opened up further north without SMART interference. Tough job.</p>
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<p>Hey JB happy to have you involved again. </p>
<p>As a Sonoma County resident, I'm now working with some NCRA locals to get the freight line opened up further north without SMART interference. Tough job.</p>
<p> </p> Thankyou Richard, and I must…tag:nwprr.net,2019-07-11:3290209:Comment:1941992019-07-11T06:32:00.177Zjbriograndehttp://nwprr.net/profile/jbriogrande
<p>Thankyou Richard, and I must apologize for missing this one about the Insurance premiums for the rail operator. Yes, we will all be interested in a solvent solution, so we will continue the discussions, with the costs of safety included as well.</p>
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<p>Thankyou Richard, and I must apologize for missing this one about the Insurance premiums for the rail operator. Yes, we will all be interested in a solvent solution, so we will continue the discussions, with the costs of safety included as well.</p>
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Jeff and JB…tag:nwprr.net,2019-07-11:3290209:Comment:1941952019-07-11T05:38:48.242ZRichard C. Brandhttp://nwprr.net/profile/RichardCBrand
<p>John and Emilio:</p>
<p>Jeff and JB have provided very realistic commentaries to John's question about a scenic railway. </p>
<p>Expensive, yes very expensive and I can only critique Jeff's reply by saying that he did not provide enough emphasis on the cost of insurance. </p>
<p>Untrained humans (tourists) moving near operating rail equipment is a very high risk condition which necessitates very high cost insurance coverage premiums for the rail operator. And all of this is required up…</p>
<p>John and Emilio:</p>
<p>Jeff and JB have provided very realistic commentaries to John's question about a scenic railway. </p>
<p>Expensive, yes very expensive and I can only critique Jeff's reply by saying that he did not provide enough emphasis on the cost of insurance. </p>
<p>Untrained humans (tourists) moving near operating rail equipment is a very high risk condition which necessitates very high cost insurance coverage premiums for the rail operator. And all of this is required up front before one paying passenger steps into a renovated rail car. </p>
<p>I'm closely following the costs that are accumulating for the SMART system in Sonoma and Marin counties and related safety issues that are becoming huge. People up here at least just don't understand the lethal nature of a moving train even running within a fenced RoW.</p>
<p>Come back with a solution that works and we all will salute you.</p> Yes Emilio, it could be rebui…tag:nwprr.net,2019-07-11:3290209:Comment:1941932019-07-11T01:08:01.328Zjbriograndehttp://nwprr.net/profile/jbriogrande
<p>Yes Emilio, it could be rebuilt if funding was available. Winter railroading needs riders however, and decent weather as well,... albeit colder than summer, but the weather up north is wet. The Roaring Camp and Big Trees is profitable, and so is the Santa Cruz, Big Trees and Pacific that runs to the boardwalk. Up North in Eureka and Arcata, where are the customers coming from to keep things rolling? San Jose and the entire Bay Area are available to RC&BT, and SCBT&P all…</p>
<p>Yes Emilio, it could be rebuilt if funding was available. Winter railroading needs riders however, and decent weather as well,... albeit colder than summer, but the weather up north is wet. The Roaring Camp and Big Trees is profitable, and so is the Santa Cruz, Big Trees and Pacific that runs to the boardwalk. Up North in Eureka and Arcata, where are the customers coming from to keep things rolling? San Jose and the entire Bay Area are available to RC&BT, and SCBT&P all year.....Just a thought......</p>
<p></p> I've actually posted about th…tag:nwprr.net,2019-07-10:3290209:Comment:1939052019-07-10T19:37:34.778ZEmilio Galohttp://nwprr.net/profile/Theduckmstr1
<p>I've actually posted about this before, so it may be possible. Like Jeff Moore was saying, the problem is finding the money to finance and get funding for this proposal. I mean, it could be done but perhaps in the future.</p>
<p>I've actually posted about this before, so it may be possible. Like Jeff Moore was saying, the problem is finding the money to finance and get funding for this proposal. I mean, it could be done but perhaps in the future.</p>