The Mystery Of The Humboldt & Eastern Railroad - Northwestern Pacific Railroad Network2024-03-28T19:49:06Zhttp://nwprr.net/forum/topics/the-mystery-of-the-humboldt-eastern-railroad?feed=yes&xn_auth=noRichard & Group,
Well, ba…tag:nwprr.net,2019-02-20:3290209:Comment:1913192019-02-20T12:40:45.131ZFred M. Cainhttp://nwprr.net/profile/FredMCain
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 13.33px;"><font face="Arial" size="3">Richard & Group,</font></p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 13.33px;"><font face="Arial" size="3">Well, basically a group of influential business people are pushing hard to attract new industry to the Humboldt Bay area.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> The lumber industry is for all intents and purposes dead.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> They are focusing on the development of a major, state of the art container port at…</font></p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 13.33px;"><font face="Arial" size="3">Richard & Group,</font></p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 13.33px;"><font face="Arial" size="3">Well, basically a group of influential business people are pushing hard to attract new industry to the Humboldt Bay area.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> The lumber industry is for all intents and purposes dead.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> They are focusing on the development of a major, state of the art container port at Humboldt Bay.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> That is their main focal point; the railroad is simply regarded as a necessary tool to accomplish this.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> You simply cannot handle the kind of traffic they are looking to attract with over the road trucks, not for that distance at any rate.</font></p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 13.33px;"><font face="Arial" size="3">I have run into some negativity and skepticism that a new west coast port is completely unnecessary – especial on the TRAINS Magazine online forum in the Northwestern Pacific thread.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> However the H&E people believe they can do that and they appear to know what they’re talking about.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> They have attracted some outside investors as well.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> Who they all are I do not know, or, well, more accurately, I kinda know but they are outfits that I am not familiar with yet.</font></p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 13.33px;"><font face="Arial" size="3">As for the railroad, it has been touted as an “east-west” line but looking at their map it appears to run more northwest-southeast.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> The projected line would run actually parallel the NWP a few miles to the east to what looks like near Island Mountain then turn due east to join the UP near Gerber.</font></p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 13.33px;"><font face="Arial"><font size="3">It is a very exciting plan to say the least.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> It almost harbors back to the 19</font><sup>th</sup></font> <font face="Arial" size="3">railroad building mentality.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> I would be excited if I could get involved with this even though I know it’s high risk.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> Sometimes I like to invest in things because I’m interested in them and not necessarily just looking for a financial reward.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> I have shares in a gold mine near Allegheny, CA which I recognize are also very high risk but I don’t care.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> I have been glad to have had the opportunity to be a part of that company and so it might also go with the H&E.</font></p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 13.33px;"><font face="Arial" size="3">I still have strong reasons to suspect that the Northwestern Pacific Railroad could be rebuilt into a solid property for a lot less money but my best guess is that they have already thought of that.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> There are probably good reasons as to why they don’t want to do that – like I said they appear to know what they’re talking about.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> I don’t know how well it would go over with the suburbanites below Cloverdale to have a lot of heavy freight traffic rolling right smack dab through their neighborhoods.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> (Probably like a lead balloon).<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> Plus, isn’t there a tunnel that was rebuilt to handle SMART trains and bicycles?<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> Surely that could not handle double stacks.<span style="margin: 0px;"> </span> Or is that tunnel actually below the junction with the Schellville line?</font></p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 13.33px;"><font face="Arial" size="3">Regards,</font></p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 13.33px;"><font face="Arial" size="3">Fred M. Cain</font></p> Fred:
I'm in the same boat wi…tag:nwprr.net,2019-02-19:3290209:Comment:1910612019-02-19T23:33:53.357ZRichard C. Brandhttp://nwprr.net/profile/RichardCBrand
<p>Fred:</p>
<p>I'm in the same boat with Jennifer. What is "this plan"?</p>
<p>Fred:</p>
<p>I'm in the same boat with Jennifer. What is "this plan"?</p> Jen,
Wellllll, I need to stu…tag:nwprr.net,2019-02-19:3290209:Comment:1914002019-02-19T18:57:59.522ZFred M. Cainhttp://nwprr.net/profile/FredMCain
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<p>Wellllll, I need to study my materials some more. By just glancing over them so far, I am beginning to reassess my view that the whole project is nothing more than an absurd, pie-in-the-sky pipe dream. The whole project is beginning to seem more and more logical. If the stars align themselves just right, who knows? They might just pull this thing off. Time will tell. I am starting to be more open minded about this than I was. Looks to me like there are some smart…</p>
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<p>Wellllll, I need to study my materials some more. By just glancing over them so far, I am beginning to reassess my view that the whole project is nothing more than an absurd, pie-in-the-sky pipe dream. The whole project is beginning to seem more and more logical. If the stars align themselves just right, who knows? They might just pull this thing off. Time will tell. I am starting to be more open minded about this than I was. Looks to me like there are some smart people on board so we'll just have to wait and see.</p>
<p>Don't get me wrong. It remains a high risk plan. High risk, perhaps, but not impossible by any means.</p>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Fred M. Cain</p> Well Fred, I went from "what…tag:nwprr.net,2019-02-19:3290209:Comment:1912762019-02-19T18:40:27.465ZJenniferhttp://nwprr.net/profile/Jennifer
<p>Well Fred, I went from "what the heck?" to total confusion in less than a day, lol.</p>
<p>Best of luck with your shortline railroad then? I guess? :-)</p>
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<p>Jen</p>
<p>Well Fred, I went from "what the heck?" to total confusion in less than a day, lol.</p>
<p>Best of luck with your shortline railroad then? I guess? :-)</p>
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<p>Jen</p> Well, group, now I have to ea…tag:nwprr.net,2019-02-19:3290209:Comment:1912682019-02-19T12:12:38.600ZFred M. Cainhttp://nwprr.net/profile/FredMCain
<p>Well, group, now I have to eat crow and take back a lot of what I'd stated on here. Mr. Bertrain finally, finally, finally got back to me. He sent me some materials that I'm going to have to review and take a few days to digest. My dear old Dad who rode with me on the North Coast Daylight bequeathed me some $ so, who knows? I might just bite on this. Not so much looking for a big reward but with the knowledge that I tried to help someone somewhere and not only that, I think it might be…</p>
<p>Well, group, now I have to eat crow and take back a lot of what I'd stated on here. Mr. Bertrain finally, finally, finally got back to me. He sent me some materials that I'm going to have to review and take a few days to digest. My dear old Dad who rode with me on the North Coast Daylight bequeathed me some $ so, who knows? I might just bite on this. Not so much looking for a big reward but with the knowledge that I tried to help someone somewhere and not only that, I think it might be good for the Country as a whole. That's why I might consider it 'cause, after all, I don't live in the Eureka area.</p>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Fred M. Cain</p> Thank you for the info/legwor…tag:nwprr.net,2019-02-18:3290209:Comment:1913102019-02-18T21:38:29.635ZJenniferhttp://nwprr.net/profile/Jennifer
<p>Thank you for the info/legwork Fred. Pffew? Jeeziz what a charlie foxtrot though...</p>
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<p>Jen</p>
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<p>Thank you for the info/legwork Fred. Pffew? Jeeziz what a charlie foxtrot though...</p>
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<p>Jen</p>
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Here is a little bit…tag:nwprr.net,2019-02-18:3290209:Comment:1913072019-02-18T19:36:52.768ZFred M. Cainhttp://nwprr.net/profile/FredMCain
<p>Group,</p>
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<p>Here is a little bit more trivia on this fuzzy proposal. Last fall, The Eureka town council had evidently sent a letter to the state attorney general requesting an investigation into the "project" - if that's what you could call it. The article in the Eureka Times Standard discussed this here:…</p>
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<p>Here is a little bit more trivia on this fuzzy proposal. Last fall, The Eureka town council had evidently sent a letter to the state attorney general requesting an investigation into the "project" - if that's what you could call it. The article in the Eureka Times Standard discussed this here:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.times-standard.com/2018/10/15/eureka-city-council-might-ask-for-ags-office-to-probe-railroad-project/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.times-standard.com/2018/10/15/eureka-city-council-might...</a> </p>
<p>Then later, one Mr. Michael Marsden with the Pacific Charter Financial Services had a rebuttal to that letter claiming that the letter was allegedly full of falsehoods. His views were reported in the Lost Coast Outpost here: <a href="https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2018/oct/18/citing-anticipated-litigation-eureka-city-council/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2018/oct/18/citing-anticipated-litigat...</a> </p>
<p>Toward the end of that article PCFS was criticized for not even having a website. But that's not true, either. They do, they really do.</p>
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<p><a href="https://pacificnorthwestrailroad.com/contact-us" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://pacificnorthwestrailroad.com/contact-us</a> </p>
<p>So, guess what? I sent <em>THEM</em> an e-mail and took them to task for not being organized. I told them that I have sent numerous e-mails that have never been returned. I said that the "liberal" groups like Marsden railed about are organized - <em>THEY</em> aren't and therein lies their problem.</p>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Fred M.Cain</p>
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