NWP: End of the Line (Is this railroad too far gone for help?) - Northwestern Pacific Railroad Network2024-03-29T05:44:42Zhttp://nwprr.net/forum/topics/nwp-end-of-the-line-is-this-railroad-too-far-gone-for-help?commentId=3290209%3AComment%3A190724&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHey Fred, I am not sure. It s…tag:nwprr.net,2019-03-10:3290209:Comment:1918942019-03-10T22:04:46.753ZEmilio Galohttp://nwprr.net/profile/Theduckmstr1
<p>Hey Fred, <br/>I am not sure. It seems that THA is doing their best to keep the rails around. Perhaps Jeff Moore will be your best bet on this. I am not sure myself.</p>
<p>Hey Fred, <br/>I am not sure. It seems that THA is doing their best to keep the rails around. Perhaps Jeff Moore will be your best bet on this. I am not sure myself.</p> Well, as the greenhouse skele…tag:nwprr.net,2019-02-12:3290209:Comment:1907272019-02-12T12:27:27.954ZFred M. Cainhttp://nwprr.net/profile/FredMCain
<p>Well, as the greenhouse skeleton clearly shows, that short section of track is still in pretty good shape. Just needs a few ties changed, new ballast and surfaced.</p>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Fred M. Cain</p>
<p>Well, as the greenhouse skeleton clearly shows, that short section of track is still in pretty good shape. Just needs a few ties changed, new ballast and surfaced.</p>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Fred M. Cain</p> Still a major problem. Back…tag:nwprr.net,2019-02-12:3290209:Comment:1906352019-02-12T06:55:21.896ZJeff Moorehttp://nwprr.net/profile/JeffMoore
<p>Still a major problem. Back in October the Humboldt County Sheriff made a major drug bust in Alderpoint, the growers set up a lot of their temporary greenhouses over the tracks themselves. Main camp seemed to be at the old boxcar body turned section shed. See the pictures in this story...…</p>
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<p>Still a major problem. Back in October the Humboldt County Sheriff made a major drug bust in Alderpoint, the growers set up a lot of their temporary greenhouses over the tracks themselves. Main camp seemed to be at the old boxcar body turned section shed. See the pictures in this story...</p>
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<p><a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://kymkemp.com/2018/10/10/humboldt-county-sheriffs-office-alleges-trespassing-electricity-theft-illegal-marijuana-and-more-found-on-alderpoint-area-property-today/" target="_blank">https://kymkemp.com/2018/10/10/humboldt-county-sheriffs-office-alle...</a></p>
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<p></p> Yes that is a good journal in…tag:nwprr.net,2019-02-12:3290209:Comment:1904582019-02-12T06:26:57.915ZRichard C. Brandhttp://nwprr.net/profile/RichardCBrand
<p>Yes that is a good journal including how they had to evade the marijuana growers along the RoW. Now that the glorious weed is legal, I wonder if that is still a problem.</p>
<p>Too bad the NCRA never developed their own gardens along the RoW in anticipation of legalization. All about timing and they never seemed to have any.</p>
<p>FYI I will be attending their board meeting this Wednesday in Healdsburg to see what they report. Doug Bosco of the NWP will provide a…</p>
<p>Yes that is a good journal including how they had to evade the marijuana growers along the RoW. Now that the glorious weed is legal, I wonder if that is still a problem.</p>
<p>Too bad the NCRA never developed their own gardens along the RoW in anticipation of legalization. All about timing and they never seemed to have any.</p>
<p>FYI I will be attending their board meeting this Wednesday in Healdsburg to see what they report. Doug Bosco of the NWP will provide a report.</p>
<p>Richard </p> No question the video probabl…tag:nwprr.net,2019-02-12:3290209:Comment:1904572019-02-12T06:03:39.149ZJeff Moorehttp://nwprr.net/profile/JeffMoore
<p>No question the video probably contains the worst of the worst the rafters passed. Also no question there are relatively long stretches of badly overgrown but otherwise intact railroad. The real question is, how much is it going to cost a potential operator to keep those parts of the railroad that are unstable passable so that you can connect the stable parts? If the answer was cheap, the line might have survived a little while longer than it did...</p>
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<p>Edited to add this: to…</p>
<p>No question the video probably contains the worst of the worst the rafters passed. Also no question there are relatively long stretches of badly overgrown but otherwise intact railroad. The real question is, how much is it going to cost a potential operator to keep those parts of the railroad that are unstable passable so that you can connect the stable parts? If the answer was cheap, the line might have survived a little while longer than it did...</p>
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<p>Edited to add this: to your point of walking along the tracks, I found a series of blog posts by a group of three guys who hiked the line from Fort Seward to Dos Rios back in 2012. Painfully slow loading pages, but lots of descriptions of what they saw on their trip. </p>
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<p>First of several pages of the trip are at <a href="https://www.deekadelic.com/2014/05/14/trekking-the-eel-river-canyon-the-haunted-railroad/" target="_blank">https://www.deekadelic.com/2014/05/14/trekking-the-eel-river-canyon-the-haunted-railroad/</a></p>
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<p>Elko, NV</p> The pictures in this video lo…tag:nwprr.net,2019-02-11:3290209:Comment:1907242019-02-11T17:34:14.752ZFred M. Cainhttp://nwprr.net/profile/FredMCain
<p>The pictures in this video look, really, really bad. Unbelievable.</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhCjYNKXNvk" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhCjYNKXNvk</a> </p>
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<p>However, o…</p>
<p>The pictures in this video look, really, really bad. Unbelievable.</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhCjYNKXNvk" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhCjYNKXNvk</a> </p>
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<p>However, o<span style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: transparent; color: #000000; cursor: text; font-family: 'Lucida Grande','Lucida Sans Unicode',sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">ne question that I have with this video:</span>...and I don't know this, I'm just wondering, could this possibly provide a somewhat distorted view of the damage? It seems like they took pictures of the very worst of it. They also included what appeared to be derailments that happened long ago and even a shot of the Island Mountain bridge that collapsed in 1964 (I think).</p>
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<p>I guess my question is, what percentage of the roadbed from Willits to Eureka actually looks this bad. After trying to "fly over" the line using Google Earth, I think it's a very small percentage BUT bear in mind that Google images are not always up to date. As a case in point, I "stood" on a bridge in "Street View" and was able to look at the line in both directions. On one side of the bridge the line was completely lost in brush and trees and it was tough to even make out where the rails were. The view on the other side of the bridge showed good, clean albeit rusty track. So, I have to assume that those two shots couldn't have been taken at the same time. Maybe even years apart.</p>
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<p>Since I'm in Indiana I am simply not able to drive up there and look around never mind walk part of the line. It would be most interesting if someone could, though.</p>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Fred M. Cain</p> "Could regular rail fans like…tag:nwprr.net,2019-02-05:3290209:Comment:1904102019-02-05T15:04:53.151ZFred M. Cainhttp://nwprr.net/profile/FredMCain
<p>"Could regular rail fans like us help out NRCA by raising money?".</p>
<p>My two cents for what it may or may not be worth is that this idea is not too far fetched. We certainly wouldn't have enough money to do much good but what we COULD do is become organized and get involved with some activism that might really make a difference.</p>
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<p>First of all there are business leaders in the Humboldt Bay area that want rail service to return - and rather badly at that. Meanwhile, I have…</p>
<p>"Could regular rail fans like us help out NRCA by raising money?".</p>
<p>My two cents for what it may or may not be worth is that this idea is not too far fetched. We certainly wouldn't have enough money to do much good but what we COULD do is become organized and get involved with some activism that might really make a difference.</p>
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<p>First of all there are business leaders in the Humboldt Bay area that want rail service to return - and rather badly at that. Meanwhile, I have come to understand that TRAC has been fighting the removal of rails due to this Great Redwood Trail thing. I have been trying to contact them to see if they might be able to help.</p>
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<p>What needs to happen is for all the pro-rail people to get together and exert some real political force on Sacramento. I may be a dreamer but I think this can be made to happen. Someday. </p>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Fred M. Cain</p> I was wondering if anyone has…tag:nwprr.net,2019-02-05:3290209:Comment:1906002019-02-05T12:20:58.658ZFred M. Cainhttp://nwprr.net/profile/FredMCain
<p>I was wondering if anyone has any new news or information on the developments along the northern end of the line. I know that there is a group of business leaders in Eureka who want rail to return.</p>
<p><br/>Does anybody have any new ideas on this since 2016?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Fred M. Cain</p>
<p>I was wondering if anyone has any new news or information on the developments along the northern end of the line. I know that there is a group of business leaders in Eureka who want rail to return.</p>
<p><br/>Does anybody have any new ideas on this since 2016?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Fred M. Cain</p> Thanks for that link Chad, I'…tag:nwprr.net,2016-08-03:3290209:Comment:1634032016-08-03T10:26:22.369ZEmilio Galohttp://nwprr.net/profile/Theduckmstr1
<p>Thanks for that link Chad, I'll check it out!</p>
<p>Thanks for that link Chad, I'll check it out!</p> "south" of the depot i can't…tag:nwprr.net,2016-08-03:3290209:Comment:1632222016-08-03T02:24:13.142Zsteve langhttp://nwprr.net/profile/stevelang
<p>"south" of the depot i can't say for sure if there was much going on, and thats a rather short narrow strip anyway. i do recall looking it over as i drove across the track, and that was when i noticed all the heavy landscaping operation going on in the depot area & beyond.</p>
<p>"south" of the depot i can't say for sure if there was much going on, and thats a rather short narrow strip anyway. i do recall looking it over as i drove across the track, and that was when i noticed all the heavy landscaping operation going on in the depot area & beyond.</p>