FRA notified SMART this afternoon that Petaluma’s Quiet Zone has been nullified. - Northwestern Pacific Railroad Network2024-03-28T15:44:00Zhttp://nwprr.net/forum/topics/fra-notified-smart-this-afternoon-that-petaluma-s-quiet-zone-has?commentId=3290209%3AComment%3A173685&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGood. Sometimes the gates do…tag:nwprr.net,2017-05-09:3290209:Comment:1742962017-05-09T22:20:52.518Zanonhttp://nwprr.net/profile/TomCurran
<p>Good. Sometimes the gates don't work. I was at Corona grade crossing and the gates were down but did not hear SMART coming.</p>
<p>Good. Sometimes the gates don't work. I was at Corona grade crossing and the gates were down but did not hear SMART coming.</p> It's to keep it right at the…tag:nwprr.net,2017-05-05:3290209:Comment:1739372017-05-05T06:14:45.480ZSMART Fanhttp://nwprr.net/profile/SMARTFan
It's to keep it right at the sound limits so people don't complain
It's to keep it right at the sound limits so people don't complain Does anybody know why SMART a…tag:nwprr.net,2017-05-04:3290209:Comment:1739932017-05-04T17:21:05.003ZBob Cleekhttp://nwprr.net/profile/BobCleek
<p>Does anybody know why SMART apparently has not tuned their horns? Remember "Chewbaca?" Some of their horns that I hear really <em>are</em> annoying, not so much because of the volume, but because of the tone. </p>
<p>Does anybody know why SMART apparently has not tuned their horns? Remember "Chewbaca?" Some of their horns that I hear really <em>are</em> annoying, not so much because of the volume, but because of the tone. </p> The FRA was clearly just tryi…tag:nwprr.net,2017-05-04:3290209:Comment:1741862017-05-04T06:53:05.057ZSMART Fanhttp://nwprr.net/profile/SMARTFan
The FRA was clearly just trying to find something to nullify the quiet zone and establish the horn rule again until testing is complete. I expect to see the quiet zone return by the end of the year.
The FRA was clearly just trying to find something to nullify the quiet zone and establish the horn rule again until testing is complete. I expect to see the quiet zone return by the end of the year. This doesn't necessarily mean…tag:nwprr.net,2017-05-04:3290209:Comment:1739292017-05-04T05:04:25.651ZJames Caesteckerhttp://nwprr.net/profile/JamesCaestecker
<p>This doesn't necessarily mean that Petaluma can't re-apply for the QZ after testing has been completed. I think that's why the FRA shut it down, since testing has not completed. No problem having QZ in public crossings if in the operational phase.</p>
<p>This doesn't necessarily mean that Petaluma can't re-apply for the QZ after testing has been completed. I think that's why the FRA shut it down, since testing has not completed. No problem having QZ in public crossings if in the operational phase.</p> pic from today. tag:nwprr.net,2017-05-03:3290209:Comment:1736852017-05-03T21:31:25.926ZSteve Atniphttp://nwprr.net/profile/SteveAtnip663
<p>pic from today. <a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1935752336?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1935752336?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a></p>
<p>pic from today. <a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1935752336?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1935752336?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a></p> Clover was using that lot to…tag:nwprr.net,2017-05-03:3290209:Comment:1739242017-05-03T05:32:29.474ZC Glovehttp://nwprr.net/profile/ChadGlover
Clover was using that lot to park their semi trailers in at one time. The gates have been there but not always closed. I got nosey one day and drove back there a couple years ago.
Clover was using that lot to park their semi trailers in at one time. The gates have been there but not always closed. I got nosey one day and drove back there a couple years ago. Smart meeting is on Wed 5-3-…tag:nwprr.net,2017-05-03:3290209:Comment:1736812017-05-03T01:32:20.050ZDavid L ILLICHhttp://nwprr.net/profile/DavidLILLICH
<p>Smart meeting is on Wed 5-3-17 as to the start date info should come from the meeting</p>
<p>Smart meeting is on Wed 5-3-17 as to the start date info should come from the meeting</p> There surely looks like there…tag:nwprr.net,2017-05-03:3290209:Comment:1736792017-05-03T01:17:26.141ZBob Cleekhttp://nwprr.net/profile/BobCleek
<p>There surely looks like there are gates on it now, and curbs to prevent driving around the gates, but I don't know how the city can cut off access to somebody's land like that. The owner and owner's traffic should be able to open the gates and get through, but there's no automatic crossing gates there. That's the crossing that caused the FRA to nix Petaluma's quiet zones, though. There's likely something about it that is causing them more concern than just a crossing left off the…</p>
<p>There surely looks like there are gates on it now, and curbs to prevent driving around the gates, but I don't know how the city can cut off access to somebody's land like that. The owner and owner's traffic should be able to open the gates and get through, but there's no automatic crossing gates there. That's the crossing that caused the FRA to nix Petaluma's quiet zones, though. There's likely something about it that is causing them more concern than just a crossing left off the list.</p>
<p></p> Yes, that's it! The satellit…tag:nwprr.net,2017-05-03:3290209:Comment:1739892017-05-03T01:10:41.585ZBob Cleekhttp://nwprr.net/profile/BobCleek
<p>Yes, that's it! The satellite photo doesn't show the gates at all. I suspect the gates were a later addition. They certainly aren't FRA certified crossing gates! They're just livestock gates. They may keep vehicles from crossing, (It looks like they've put curbs in place to prevent "drive arounds," as well.) I guess the question really is whether the FRA is going to let them get away with that.</p>
<p>I am strongly opposed to quiet zones as well. There is nothing, absolutely nothing,…</p>
<p>Yes, that's it! The satellite photo doesn't show the gates at all. I suspect the gates were a later addition. They certainly aren't FRA certified crossing gates! They're just livestock gates. They may keep vehicles from crossing, (It looks like they've put curbs in place to prevent "drive arounds," as well.) I guess the question really is whether the FRA is going to let them get away with that.</p>
<p>I am strongly opposed to quiet zones as well. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, that works as well as a horn or whistle when it comes to getting people's attention. You are absolutely right that the first years of service will be the worst. I really don't think even SMART staff really appreciate the risks. There will be hundreds of grade crossings a day by SMART DMUs. A train every half hour going each way through however many grade crossings times the number of hours of operation? That's lots of chances to win the Darwin Award.</p>
<p>Then there are the suicides. CalTrain racks up at least a dozen fatalities a year, and lots more some years. A lot of these are suicides. There are almost as many suicides on the CalTrain line as on the GG Bridge. People seem to think that trains sound their horns because the engineers think it's fun. They'll find out, I'm afraid.</p>